EGC-COR-001 Charles Journal Copy

With the rediscovery of the original journal, Charles' Journal has now been given its own page.


EGC-COR-002 1847 Letter - Brother John to Charles


Horsforth December 23, 1847

Dear Sons[1],

I am once more requested to take my pen in hand to write these few lines unto you, hoping they will find you boath in good health as this leaves us all at present, as far as can be expected with the trouble that we have had by the death of our dear mother[2], with the exception of our Johns wife[3] she is not verry well at present, I am verry sorry to inform you that we have again been visited by death full hand, I am verry sorry to inform you that we have had the trouble of following the Dear and beloved remains of our mother to the grave, her dear body is interred in Adle Church[4] yard, she died on the 14th of December, being in the 65th year of her age, she was only a fortnight ill and only about 8 or 9 days in bed but the best of all she died in the Lord wishing that we all should do the same be it so, Dear sons since the bathing ocion parts you from us you neather hear, nor see our troubles, you might see these few lines but you see none of our troubles you may think they are great and so they are, we have had a great deal of sickness and Death in all part of ingland such a time as was never nown in ingland before, the trade is verry bad hear again all is at a stand nearly but still we keep moveing on in the old way, I received your letter sent by Mr. huse I have paid boath the shares in up to the half[5] and I have writting to the society to see wether it will stand for one whole share or not, I [piece missing] it to be so if it can be done, spaight [piece missing] have your

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We are Making [illeg] master & new ones for Leeds but we are coupling them together making them into 40 dozen[?],they are also going to be paires so that one twister works 80 dozen spindels each, I am sending you of newspaper along with this it is of merca[?] paper, I received your letters dated the 29th of September 1847 but I have not answered it yet, Dear Son I have paid boath shares up to the full amount that is I have paid up to the half making one whole share and I am going to write to the society to see if I can get them to let it stand for of whole share or not and if they will not do it then I will withdraw one share out but if they let it stand then you will have your 80 acre clear.

Dear Brothers we should go to pay our best respects to our esteemed But lamented mother ([illeg] or rather to place where her Body lies but her Sould has feld [sic; perhaps "fled"] to her heavenly father where I hope and trust we all shall meet when our journey is run and we have done with the Cares and trouble of this wicked world you will find inclosed 2 memories and Coppy of verses (headed[?]) Blessed are the dead that die in the lord, so our Dear mother did and her dying words was, Christ [piece missing] live to the lord there is also

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Dear Brothers this is a Correct Coppy of a letter received from Mr. Roberts[6] to Mr. spaight in answer to my father (wich you will see on the other Page) I will put all in that is in Mr. Spaights letter

Liverpool Dec 24/47 My Dear Sir the Packet Ships will sail on the 1st 6th 11th 16th 21st & 26th of January 1848 for New york there are only 4 vessels at Preasent advertised for New Orleans and no date fixed for sailing, on Saturday [a piece is missing] you a paper giving the latest shiping [a piece is missing]

No 568 Share is in the name of C W Sutcliffe and Before any thing can be done, we must receive from him himself, a written notice of withdrawal, and then when it Comes to his turn to be Paid, the money can be placed to his Credit, Mr. C W Sutcliffe has behaved as honourable, honest [illeg] in America I paid all dues & demands (wich will be seen when the anual report Comes out) and I think the Committee would not Be stretching its powers upon a written notice from Personaly in immediatly placing the withdrawal money to his acount for the other share only he would still have the rent to pay to the end of the Society, I am Dear Sir yours Respy Sam. Roberts Mr. M. S Spaight[7] Leeds

Dear Brothers this [a piece is missing] every word that the letter Contains, But I think you should pay rather less rent my father wants you to let our George have a part or else join, and you Can get more sometime after in behalf of those that are left of us I subscribe myself your loving father Brothers and Sisters John Sutcliffe

Charles Sutcliffe
Gorst Ville
Near Madison
Wisconcin Teritory


  • [1] While it is known that Charles' brother George also emigrated to America, it has been thought he went to Ohio. However, ship's passenger lists show he accompanied Charles in 1845, and both the salutations "Dear Sons" here and "Dear Brothers" later, as well as the discussion of George, suggest George initially accompanied Charles to Wisconsin.

  • [2] Henrietta (Wolstenholme Sutcliffe, b. 1782, d. 14 December 1847, possibly a victim of the great typhus epidemic of 1847 that claimed more than 1300 lives in Leeds that year.

  • [3] This would be John's second wife, Miriam (Mason), with whom he had three children: Robert Henry, Adah and John William, all of whom make appearances in Charles' Journal.

  • [4] St. John the Baptist Church in Adel, often referred to simply as “Adel Church”. The church is considered one of the finest surviving examples of Norman architecture in England.

  • [5] That is, Charles' shares in the British Temperance Emigration Society and Savings Fund, which he'd received when he enrolled in the Society in June 1844. One share, valued at £40, entitled the holder to an eighty acre estate, with a house on the property and a farm cleared and improved. Payments against the shares were to be made at one shilling per week.

  • [6] Likely Samuel Roberts, proprietor of the Temperance Coffee-House of Liverpool at which the British Temperance Emigration Society held its meetings.

  • [7] M. S. Spaight, of Leeds, was British Temperance Emigration Society member #179.

  • 1850s

    EGC-COR-003 1853 Letter - Father Robert to Charles


    Law Lane Horsforth
    June 13th, 1853

    Dear Son & Daughter,

    I received your letter dated March 12, and am glad to hear that you are all well, and in good heath, the greatest comfort of this Life, But still, health without means to support it is not so verry good to bear at all times, We are all of us rather troubled with that Complaint, But perhaps it will not always be the Case, at least I should hope not, I am sorry to hear that you are so verry much prest for money but you must keap up your Spirits, and say there is a better time a Comming. I shall verry much like to hear of you building a new house, as I am afraid, that some day or other that your old Castle will be blown down, Keep out of debt if you possibly can do, then you will be out of the Clutches of any one, they cannot always keep out of debt, but try and get out as soon as you can, for Chance they might come on you at any time you are rather better off then we are for you Can grow what will keep you, and we Cannot do that, We have to work at our trades for our living and there is scarcely any trade at all at present, what with Wars and rumours of Wars, I think the trade is all lost, at least for the present, our Wm & John[1] has gone into the silk business, so that they will have no money to share for a wile, I hope they will get on, and be prosperous in their undertaking, money is verry bad to get hold off in this part of the World at present, verry bad indeed, I wish it was more easy. I think that i tould you some time ago, about our mill being made larger, some 5 years ago, verry well, take it on an average I should say, there as only being about half time, I am still liveing at the old house yet, my old house keeper has been verry ill for some time, her name, Mary Starkey, you will recolect her name, Verry like she is got almost better again, So i have got her away to her relations, our Mary[2] his with me at present, I have been verry ill my-self Lately, in fact I am never well So Long together, you see i have gat to a rather Long age, my time is getting verry short in this World, but after all I should like to see you once more before I depart this Life, Ben Parkins[3] father, died verry suddenly a week or two ago, he dropped down in his own house, and died in a few minutes, he had given instructions to sell the Card Machinery all by auction only a day or two before he died, the Card business as being Sta[?]. Ever since Ben came to America, Perhaps it will be a bad job for Ben, But I should hope not Ben's wife has gat another baby Cince he came, so she will be in a fix now, Ann Elizabeth[4] his at Ashton in Lancashire, She is assisting in Teaching a school, Robert is with our John at Leeds, Thomas is with me at Horsforth, Cince i began this Letter Elizabeth Ann has Came over to Horsforth, to stay with me as our Mary his called away to waite on a woman at Huddersfield, for a short time, on June 3 we have a thunderstorm, such a one, as we have not had Lately, it thundered for 3/4 of an hour without intermission the rain came down in torrents Causing tremendous floods, and doing great damage, Dear Son, have you got any Odfellows Lodges[5] in your part of America, there has been a great many dispensations granted Lately in america, so that i thought that you might Start one, if you have not got one already, Those Persons, that you speek of in your letter, "your wife's relations from Bradford" business[?] some time ago, I cannot recolect the date now, they had not so verry much time to Stay, but they were verry Cheerful all the time they was here, I Should Like to see you this summer if at all Possible But I must Conclude with my kind Love, and best wishes to you all I remain your Loving and affectionate Father Robert Sutcliffe


  • [1] Charles' brothers.

  • [2] Charles' sister, Mary, who married William Bagot.

  • [3] Charles' sister, Henrietta (or Ann Henrietta), married Benjamin Parkins. They emigrated to America, sojourning for a time in Ohio, before moving to Wisconsin. If that Ben is this, then the reference to "Ben's wife has gat another baby" is strange, Ben's wife in fact being "our Henrietta".

  • [4] Charles' sister Ann Elizabeth (or Elizabeth Ann) married David Camm and had four children: Mary, b. about 1827, Susey, b. abt 1829, Robert, b. about 1832 and Thomas, b. abt 1834.

  • [5] The Odd Fellows were a fraternal and service organization, originating in the 18th century, organized into local chapters known as lodges.

  • 1860s

    EGC-COR-004 1862 Letter - Father Robert to Charles in Wisconsin


    Law Lane Horsforth Nov 1862
    Decr 28

    Dear Son & Daughter,

    It is now a long time Cince I had a letter from you, and I suppose that you will, will think the same, But however I am anxiause to know how you are all getting along amongst the War for it Looks Verry Likely that your new America will be as badly taxed as our Old England after a while, Dear Son, you know that my time is getting verry short in this World, and I want to hear from you as often as it is possible, I am verry poorly at times and am hardly ever able to go from home, so that it looks verry doubtful that you can have many more Letters from me at the best of it, But before I go hence if it may be the will of the Lord, I hope to hear of you being prosperous and doing well in the World, I am sorry to hear of your bad success, what with your bad crops and other Worldly affairs, But as things are I can see but verry little prospect, but you must keep up your spirits, "Surely the days will not all be dark," and live in hopes that better days are comming, the Sun may shine yet, In my Last Letter I spook to you about Bartering with you for flour, hams & [illeg.] but when you wrote you did not say anything on the subject at all, But cotton goods are very dear here now, so that there would be no sending any cotton goods at present there is verry great distress in this country at present particularly in the cotton districts, also the iron trades are falling off, I really do not know what things are going to get to, but however they are very fair of for work at the Silk Mill yet Mr. Fell and his son has left the mill, it was reported, to start Bussiness for themselfs, But however that may be, I think that they are the same as a great deal of persons besides themselfes, that they have jumped out of the frying pan into the fire, and I fancy that they have found out the Secret Cince, they have got John Sutcliffe[1] now, as their manager, I do not now whether you know him or not, but he was formerly a Spinner at Leeds mill I do not know that I have anything verry particular to write about when I have begun to write, but I suppose that I must fill them at any time, in a former part of this Letter, I told you that all was well, But as this letter has been rather long in hand, things have altered a little, for the wether has been verry bad, and bad health is verry prevelent at present, So that a many of us have got colds, our John to, is not so very well, Dear Son, Mr David Illingsworth Farmer, was making inquiries about you the other day, and wished to be remembered to you, he is going on as usual with farming, and appears to be verry fair in health, he said that you and he used to be particular Friends when you was at home, John Pickup is still keeping a Public House, he is at Birkenhead, in Cheshire, near Liverpool and I think that he is doing pretty well But I must conclude at present hoping that these few lines will find you all in good health and Spirits, give my best respects to your father Blakey[2], also Ben Parking[3] and family, and except the same to yourself, with my kind love, and best wishes to you all, remaining your loveing and affectionate Father, Robert Sutcliffe


  • [1] From the comments this John Sutcliffe appears not to be a relative.

  • [2] William Blakey, Charles' father-in-law and neighbor.

  • [3] Husband of Charles' sister, Henrietta. The Parkins also lived in the Arena area.

  • EGC-COR-005 1863 Letter - Brother John to Charles W


    2 Wesley Place Leeds Oct 4th 63
    Dear Brother & Sister

    I now take the opertunaty of writing a few lines to you hoping to find you and your Family enjoying good Health, also Elizabeth Ann[1], her Brothers and father if he still be amongst the living, and I hope he is, I Posted a letter for you on the 16th of April but it appears to me from the address you still Put on the news Papers that you have not got it, and another thing I think you would have wrote before now, our Henry wrote one Part of it and I wrote the other, it contained an account of the End of our Dear Father[2] and also two of his funeral Cards, and a slip of Paper I put the Registery of all our Births, on our Dear Parents Included, if you have got the last letter I hope you will write as soon as you can and relieve our minds on that Point, our Departed fathers affairs are not settled yet, But the will is Proven I feel troubled for our Henry I fear it will Be a bad job for him, he appears to make no head way or Progress at all, me and wife[3] was up at Horsforth a forthough since today they where all Pretty well in Health except Thom Shaw (Senior)[4] he was only very Poorly, our William & wife[5] is living in our fathers House, our Henry told me he had had a letter from Elizabeth Ann lately But he had sent it over to our Marys, so that I did not see what it Contained, the Mill at Horsforth is only Running 3 days a week and a great many of the Hands has had nothing at all to do for many weeks, Particularly the twiners and spinners, I have heard that Fell is only very slack, the silk trade is only Bad we are working full time at Leeds But it is the long spinning that keeps us up, our Mill at leeds is very near as Big again as it was when you left England, our Master has let the little mill, top of mill street to a Person named Perkins, I intend to send this letter as far as New York, By his son Richard Perkins, he has Been 10 years in America Before foreman in Gass fitting Works, he starts from here on Tuesday, I have just seen Mr. Richard Perkins this Breakfast time Monday Morning he gave me his address in New York I might send it you if I liked, there if you had anything to do in New York at any time you might call and see him or if you chose to write to him at any time, his address is Richard Perkins, 669 Water Street New York I told him I thought the last letter we sent was lost, he said he thought that the Best to send letters unpaid so I am sending this unpaid, I got one Illustrated News Paper the last week But one I got another the last week I pereused the last well over to see if I could find your name, or Bens or anyone that I knew, it speaks very Honerable of the Wisconsin Army, I sent the Illustrated London New off to you the last Thursday, our Henry had one Directed to him a few weeks since, But they wanted to charge 13 Pence for it, so he let them take it Back again. I got one about the same time, Dear Brother, when you send one, Put your names on the outside so that they can see all the writing at the same time. I intend sending you another this week the Person I am sending this with seems to me to Bee a very nice and Persevering young man, I have not heard from our Mary lately But I Believe they are all Pretty Well, her youngest son John Wm[7] is at the sea yet he is a fireman on Bord a steam vessel My oldest son (your God Son) is a fireman on a steam Packet and has been nearly 2 years, Robert, our Wm son[8], is working at our Place at Leed, My youngest son John Wm is learning mechanics at Horsfields. Adah, my youngest is training for a teacher in the Church School, Mary Ann[9] my eldest is out of a situation just at Preasent, tell Elizabeth Ann, my wife says she Promised to wrote to her, But she thinks she has forgot her Promise for she has not had a single line from her yet, give our kind love to her, Sutcliffe, Robert Thomas and their father[10], Richard Wilkinson our Mariah Husband was over at leeds an Horsforth a few weeks since he said they where all Pretty well in Health But they had had their mills shut up for 3 months on account of the Scarcety of Cotton Caused by your lamentable War, they had made a start again (when he was over) of running 3 or 4 days a week, they Burried their youngest son[11] on the 2 of July he died after an illness of 3 days, Now thou Dear Brother Charles, if you have not got our last letter, you are excuseable, But if you have got it I think you are more negligent than we are, and I am Certain we are Bad enough my wife has wanted me to write to you many times, and I have thought I would But kept putting it off expecting we should have one from you But you must thank the individual Brings it as far as New York, had he not Being comming Perhaps I might have put it off a while longer, and another thing I thought if it was Posted in your own Territorys you would Be more sure of getting it, But you must excuse the Bad writing and all Blunders you may find, as it has been written Hastely, I will try to do Better the next time I write and Perhaps Be able to say more about our Dear Departed fathers affairs he was laid as he Desired at Adelle Church and edging stones put Round the grave as he wished the night Before his Death, But the greater Part of his will is yet to Carry out But I will say more when I see that you get this safe, I hold two Promusary Notes one for our Wm the other for our Hy But the first is of no use hopeing to here from you soon also that you all are enjoying good Health My wife Desires and Joins me in Kind love to you you all, and Believe Me

    your affectionate Brother & Sister
    John & Sarah Sutcliffe


  • [1] There are multiple references to this Elizabeth Ann throughout these letters. In his 1864 letter to Charles, John makes clear he is referring to Elizabeth Parkin, eldest child of their sister Henrietta Parkin, though other sources name her "Elizabeth Lilly", and Jane Coldwell Sutcliffe (¶36) calls her "Miss Lilly".

  • [2] Robert Sutcliffe, Charles' father, passed away on 25 Feb 1863. Unfortunately, the funeral cards and registry of births were not among the Edna G. Culver Papers.

  • [3] This would, by this time, be John's third wife, Sarah (Pickersgill Johnson), whom he married on 2 Aug 1856 at Leeds, All Saints, Yorkshire.

  • [4] Husband of Charles' sister, Susey. Thomas would be deceased prior to Susey's letter of 8 Sept 1866.

  • [5] Jane (Taylor). They were married on 18 Feb 1834.

  • [7] Charles had two nephews named John William. The older, John William Bagot, was the youngest son of his sister, Mary. The younger was the youngest son of his brother, John. Both are mentioned here.

  • [8] Charles' brother William had two sons: Dean, b. abt 1836, and Robert, b. abt 1837.

  • [9] Only child of John and his first wife, Harriet, Mary Ann was half-sister to Robert Henry, John William and Adah Mason, all of whom were children of John's second wife, Miriam (Mason).

  • [10] Sutcliffe, Robert and Thomas were all sons of Charles' sister Ann Henrietta, and her husband Benjamin Parkin. Their oldest child was Elizabeth Lilly (whom Jane Coldwell Sutcliffe (¶36) calls "Miss Lilly"), b. 1839 in Leeds, m. 1863 to William Downs, and d. 1927 in South Dakota. If this is the Elizabeth Ann of this letter, then it would appear that Ann Henrietta was deceased by this time.

  • [11] Mariah and Richard Wilkinson had three children: John, b. 1839, Richard, b. 1844 and Thomas b. 1848.

  • EGC-COR-006 1864 Letter - Brother John in England to Charles W in Wisconsin


    2 Wesley Place, Richmond Hill, Leeds, May 15, 64

    Charles W Sutcliffe
    Dear Brother and Sister,

    With gladness we Received your Welcombe letter on the 4th of this month and feel happy to see you and the smaller branches of your Family are all enjoying good Health, also in Saying we are all Pretty well. I, myself, have been a great deal better in my time [illeg] expect ever I must apologuize for not writing to you Before now, the Reason is I wanted the Affairs of our Dear Departed Parent[1] to be Brought to a finish long ago as soon as that was done it was My Intention to let you know all I could, the letter that was lost, contained a good deal of later end of our Dear Father, I went up to Horsforth the 24th Feby at night, when I went, he[2] said (a John I am so glad thaas comed) [illeg] I thought that struck and wouldn't come see me any more our Henry and Thomas Shaw[3] was with him at the time, and our William & wife where living with him, but had gone up to our Suseys Now says Father, Before they come in let me tell you what I want to say, then he gave me his Paper, or will, and I was to get some Portions of it altered and get T Shaws name Put in insted of Fells as Executor I staid till the last train time. But Before I left, he said he felt a great deal Better, and thought he would do a while longer again he was talking about the grave and Being Burried, and he did not forget to exhort us and all his Children to Prepare for another world, when I shook Hands with him the grasp felt Deathly, But still I had hope that he might Rally again soon after I left him he began to be very Restless until after midnight when he fell into a sleep, and I Believe he never waked afterwards in this world. But do Believe God in his mercy took his soul to himself to join in Everlasting Harmony with his maker

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    Promised to let John Shaw[4] have it for 235 pounds Tom Shaw has been very Poorly[5] for many weeks but he got to his work again about 3 weeks since. all the others are Pretty well I believe But have very little work, Rd Wilkinson[6] and family are all Pretty well, Elizabeth Bagot and John Wm Bagot[7] have bouth got Married, Dean Sutcliffe and his wife[8] where are our House a few weeks since they said that Mary Ann's Father (David Camm)[9] was only very Poorly, our Henry and wife[10] where at our Place today they had been looking for a House they had found and taken one at Armley[11] and will remove soon. there is scarcely a House to be got in Leeds it is becomming quite a noted Place[12], the Iron trade is extending very fast there thousands of Tons of Iron stone got about leeds now in a year and the assizes is Removed from York to Leeds we feel very glad to see you are fortunate enought to keep out of army and the war. I hope you may Continue so we have a very heavy national Debt But I think you will surpass us soon if you have not done so already, I call it right down Butchery, we have had very fine weather for the last few months and Crops are very Promising you would see in the Paper that the Alibama was sunk near to france about a week ago, I have being a long time in getting this done but you must excuse me they say it is Better late than never I have been very negligent but I have told you the reason above I have made Part Blunders but can correct them as you go on, give our love to Elizabeth Ann (used to be) Parkin[13], her Father and her Brothers, and Dear Brother and Sister accept the same from your far distant But loving and affectionate Brother and Sister,

    John and Sarah Sutcliffe


  • [1] Robert Sutcliffe, Charles' father, passed away on 25 Feb 1863.

  • [2] "He" here is Charles' and John's father. John is telling of his last visit, the evening before he died.

  • [3] Sister Susey had both a husband and a son named Thomas Shaw. By comments further in the letter, it would seem the elder is intended here.

  • [4] Sister Susey's middle of seven children. He would be twenty nine at this time.

  • [5] Born about 1801, Thomas Shaw, Sr., would be about sixty three years old at this time. Within two years, he would be dead (see Susey Shaw's 1866 letter).

  • [6] Husband of sister Maria.

  • [7] The third and fourth children of sister Mary and William Bagot. Elizabeth was married 21 November 1863 to William Waite. John William was married to Susannah Thompson, date unknown.

  • [8] Dean is the elder child of brother William. The name of his wife and the date of marriage are unknown.

  • [9] Mary Ann Camm, eldest of the four children, all born between 1827 and 1834, of sister Betty and David Camm.

  • [10] Brother Robert Henry ("our Henry") m. Mary Hunt abt Aug 1844. Henry would pass away on 12 March 1867.

  • [11] The typical house of a skilled worker in the mid-18th century was a "through house" (i.e., not joined to the back of other houses, as the "back-to-backs" of the poor were) consisting of of two downstairs and two upstairs rooms. The upstairs rooms were used as bedrooms. The downstairs front room was kept for the best, decorated with the best furniture and ornaments. The back room, where the family typically spent most of its time, served as both a living room and kitchen. It wasn't until the 1870s that most working class homes had gas light or bathing rooms. Cooking was typically done on an iron range. There were no indoor bathrooms.

  • [12] In 1801 Leeds had a population of perhaps thirty thousand. But mid-century it had reached one hundred thousand. The first railway link, to Liverpool, was opened in 1834, with more opening over the next generation, opening Leeds even further to the Industrial Revolution. In 1893 Leeds was finally given city status.

  • [13] Eldest child of sister Henrietta Parkin. Elizabeth married William Downs on 23 August 1863 in Arena, Wisconsin.

  • EGC-COR-007 1866 Letter - Susan Shaw to Charles W


    Lister Hill Horsforth
    Sep 8th 1866

    Dear Brother

    I hope you are all well as it leaves us here at present, excepting the disease of my Husband[1] his illness was an overflow of blood at the heart, which caused him at times to bleed very much at the nose. He had some kind of a stroke, which left him speechless for a few days, he came round again very nicely, when one day he was just walking across the road and he came back into the house. at the time the whether was warm shivering and shaking as if he was starved with cold he then went to bed. But I am sorry he never got up again, but lived about ten days. and I am also very happy to inform you that we have evey reasons to believe that he departed in Pease, with God. We have not his likeness here nor has any one it but yourself. Please will you be kind enought to let me have it back the first opportunity you have, if you think it proper you might get one taken from it for yourself. Our Children are all well. I will begin with the oldest first, Betty[2] her husband and two children keep a Public House at Leeds. Henreitta[3] is married to a Cartwright lives at Morley one child. Mary is out in service unmarried John[4] is married and has three Children and keeps a Graphics Shop at Carrbridge. Ann[5] is married to a Cloth weaver and has five children the oldest is Eight years old, and has live with me ever since he was born[6]. Robert[7] is married, is a joiner and Cabinet maker and has three Children. Thomas[8] unmarried works in the wine cellar of a wholesale Druggists Establisment in Leeds. Martha[9] the youngest is unmarried and is out in service, by this you will see we have not one working at the Mill.

    We all send our kind Love to Elizabeth Ann[10] her husband and her Brothers and except the same yourself & family. There has been a great alteration in the mill since you was here There has not been above two or Three Days a week since Mr. Joseph Died, There is only three twiners and five spinners. Everthing is very dear here. both in eating and weaving apparel Beef is one shilling a pound, Thomas Gray Died about three months since, Old David Farrar, his wife, Son, James, Sam & Rebecca[11] are all Dead and buried many years ago John Eastwood & his wife is Dead and their George Page Cloth Manufactoreer he is very well off. We live in the same house we did when you was here. Please write back and let us know you are all getting along. Perhaps you will have heard about Richard Wilkinson[12] & Henrietta Bagot[13] being Dead. Our Henry's little Engin is at an Excibition at York.

    From Your Affectionate Sister
    Susan Shaw
    Lister Hill Horsforth


  • [1] Charles' sister, Susan, married Thomas Shaw on 25 Dec 1828 at Halifax, St. John the Baptist, Yorkshire. From this letter, it appears that Thomas was recently deceased.

  • [2] Betty Shaw, b. abt 1829, m. Eli Farrar on 9 Jun 1851 at Woodside, St. James, Horsforth, Yorkshire. Eli was a son of David and Hannah Farrar. The David Farrars were neighbors of the Sutcliffes at the 1841 census. Betty, Eli and Eli's brother David, make appearances in Charles' journal (cf. entries for July 22 and August 9). The names of her children are not currently known.

  • [3] Henrietta, bapt. 2 Jan 1831, m. ____ Cartwright. The name of their child is not currently known.

  • [4] John, b. abt 1835. The names of his wife and children are not currently known.

  • [5] Ann, b. abt 1837, m. William Marshall Hudson on 29 Oct 1859 at Woodside, St. James, Horsforth, Yorkshire. The five children were William Shaw (b. abt 1858), Clara (b. abt 1860), Shaw (b. abt 1863), Mary Ann (b. abt 1865) and Marth (b. abt 1867). Later they would have two more: Elizabeth (b. abt 1869) and Ada (b. abt 1878).

  • [6] William's approximate date of birth suggests he may have been born out of wedlock. This may explain why he was raised by his grandmother.

  • [7] Robert, b. abt 1840. The names of his wife and children are not currently known.

  • [8] Thomas, b. abt 1842.

  • [9] Martha, b. abt 1844.

  • [10] Charles' niece, eldest child of sister Henrietta (now apparently deceased) and Ben Parkin. The Parkin family had emigrated to America, settling for a time in Ohio, and now were in Wisconsin.

  • [11] Parents and siblings of Eli Farrar.

  • [12] Charles' sister Maria married Richard Wilkinson; their oldest child was also Richard. Which Richard is intended here is not clear.

  • [13] Daughter of Charles' sister, Elizabeth, and her husband William Bagot. Henrietta d. 28 Nov 1865 in Huddersfield, Yorkshire, at age thirty four.

  • EGC-COR-008 1868 Letter - Brother John in England to Charles in Wisconsin


    123 1 Richmond Terrace
    Providence Street
    Leeds Dec 3rd 1868

    My Dear Brother and sister
    you will I have no doubt, have expected a letter from me long since, but you must excuse my negligence With much Pleasure, I received yours quite safe containing 2 Photographs one your oldest Son, the other our Harry's little Engine[1], I must tell you, that, I feel very much obliged, I know have thy likeness, thy youngest and thy oldest son, but have not got one of they Dear Partner in this life, your Bro & sisters have all seen them, I felt very glad to see you had got over the severe illness you [illeg.] had, but I do not wonder at you feeling the worse from it, or the worse for ware as you term it. I can assure you it is the case with me for I scarcely feel right well too days together, got as grey as a Badger and lost nearly all my teeth[2], I think some time I shall never have the Pleasure of seeing you again in this world, if that be denied I hope we shall meet in Heaven. I felt very glad to see you are getting on so well in your temporal (as well as spiritual) affairs as to [illeg.] the title of Squire, as Justice of the Peace may god assist you in your verdicts, Our Susan and Our Mary have bouth Been very Ill but I am happy to say they are both got well again Our Susan had a very bad attack of Inflamation. Our Mary had the Gastric Fever very bad they both where where in a very Dangerous state a while, our Maria I Believe is Pretty well, (at least) was a few weeks since, Inclosed you will find a letter from our Mary also likeness of Henrietta, her Eldest Daughter, her youngest son (John William) has been at the Sea for some years he has Escaped with life very narrowley many times only a few weeks since the Steamer on wich he was was totally wrecked, the Captain and Part of the Crew lost, he J Wm had to jump into the Sea (to save his life) and was Picked up, our Mary wishes, when you write to Richard, to request him to write to her oftener, Uncle Crowther[3] was at our house soon after I received your letter, a son of Uncle Barny's was with him, from Malton they read your letter and was very well Pleased with its Contents, Dear Brother I should like you to fullfill your Promise, and write to him, it would Please him greatly. I was to give his Compliments to you, he had him spending a few days at Scarborogh, Dear Bro it is now the 21st, you will think I got on very [illeg.] (I think so two) it is a miserable wet morning. We have had nothing but wet weather for this last few weeks, in April May June & Part of July we had scarcely any rain at all, nearly all (as you say) was Burnt up, turnips suffered greatly, Butter is now 2,6 a Roll of 24 oz. When I was up at Horsforth soon after I got your letter, I saw William Nickol[4] and his wife at our Susans, (the Person that sent you the Pipes[?]) his wife wish me to say to you, to tell [illeg.] Leathly (I think thats the name that she felt very grieved at him writing to the People at Wakefield and not writing to them also, he Wm Nickol is working at the mill at Horsforth, I sent your letter to our Henry's widow[5]. She was going to send a line or two but has not done so yet. I Intended sending you a View of our New Infermary where the great Exhibition has been held, also a Photograph of one of My Children, but as I find this will make the letter heavy Enough, I must leave them till I write the next letter, then I must try to send them all Mary Ann the oldest (at home) Robert Henry, (at Crewe) Maria's[?] your god son, John Wm My youngest son at home he will be lose of his apprenticeship Feb'y 19th 69, & Adah my young Daughter teacher at the Parish Church School, our J. Wm sent a letter to R. Parkin[6] some time since, has he got it I will Post zadkills almanac soon after this Sent 3 Papers before. Sisters & Bro joins With me in kind love to you you all, [illeg.] affectionately John Sutcliffe


  • [1] Henry was an engineer and clock maker, apparently of some skill. He built and exhibited what he billed as the world's smallest working steam engine. Though the picture mentioned here was not among the Edna G. Culver Family Papers, a commemorative card was.

  • [2] Five years hence, during his trip back to England, Charles would remark that he didn't recognize John at all, "he had got so old".

  • [3] Perhaps brother to Charles' mother. There is some suggestion, but no hard evidence, that Charles' maternal grandmother was a Crowther. Also there is this from Sutcliffe Genealogy 1: "We also found among papers which were grandfather's and grandmother's [Charles and Sarah Sutcliffe] a 'In Memoriam' card on which is the name Crowther Wolstenholme, died March 16, 1870, age 77, buried at Kirkcliff, Ripponden Church."

  • [4] William Nickol is unidentified. But the step-mother of Charles' wife, Sarah Ann, was a Nichols, and we encounter several Nichols in Charles' Journal. See esp. entries of August 9 and 10.

  • [5] Robert Henry ("Henry") Sutcliffe married Mary Hunt abt. August of 1844. He passed away on 12 March 1867.

  • [6] Likely Robert Parkin, second child of Charles' sister, Henrietta, and brother to the Elizabeth Ann mentioned in several previous letters.

  • 1870s

    EGC-COR-009 1872 Letter - Brother John Sutcliffe to Charles in Wisconsin


    1 Richmond Terrace, Leeds, May

    My Dear Brother & Sister

    You will have looked for a letter from me long before you get this But you must excuse me being so long in writing it is not for the want of thinking off, tho you are so far away, there scarely a day passes without some thought rises Pertaining to you, But you cannot see our thoughts, no more than we can see yours. Inclosed you will find our William and his wife[1] likenesses which I got the last week, I think they are very accurate ones, I think yo uhave all our Family now, if not, say when you write also say wither you know our William yet or my youngest son (John Wm) wrote to Robert Parkin a long time since but he has had no reply from him Prehaps you will be good enough to mention it to him when you see him, give our love to him, Thomas, and Elizabeth Ann[2], and their families, for I gess they all have families by this time I suppose Elizabeth Ann has no one to write to now, But I have 2 at home that want [piece missing] very glad [piece missing] from her, I am sorry to tell you My oldest son (your god son) is in a very queer state at the present and has been for some 12 months nearly he has had several epileptic fits and appears to have left him woty[?] in is head so far, I am afraid he will never be anything more. he is with us at our house at Present, he has a wife and 2 children[3], our Susan, Maria, Mary, William and our Henrys widow sends their love to you all, they are all getting on much as usual and keeps getting a bit older Our Maria has heard nothing from her son John for a long time, neither has our Mary heard from Richard, her youngest son John Wm Bagot was very Ill a week or two since the Docter said it was Consumption I get 3 Papers from you the last week but one, there are some nice stories in them and a good deal on the Alabama Claims, I got a good many Papers a while since containing a nice story, our Wm has all of them, our Wm told me John Picup's widow [piece missing] a [piece missing] ago John is dead some time since, she is living retired at Horsforth Thomas Shaw[4] and 3 others from Horsforth are working at our Place, (Will Hanson son John Stables and another) Oliver Halliwell[5] was also working hear but some time since one day he left his work not very well in Health, he was found dead in Bed the following morning, he had being living by himself, we are quite Bissy[sic. "busy"] at our Place, we had a strike amongst the girl about 8 weeks since for 9 hours Per day[6] they got it, but now we are working the old time, and the differance is put down as overtime, everything appears to be quiet revolutionized what with Desputs and strikes and everything getting up in Price, I hope you got your almanac all safe this time. I have never missed sending [piece missing] since the [piece missing] also I send you Paper every now an then wich I hope you get safe, you talked some time since, about paying us a visit, But begin to think we shall never have the Pleasure of seeing you any more in England, for most likely in a short time you will begin to think you are getting to old for the journey, our Marias son is in Buffalo in the state of New York, she has your last letter at present therefore if I omit answering anything, you must excuse me, we have had miserable cold weather here for some time we have had snow this month, also keen frosts in the nights, Dear Bro we felt very glad to see wither you nor your Property was injured by the late fire you had[7] and hope you may be preserved from any such Calamity I hope this will find you, Dear Sister and all your family still enjoying good Health still and long may you be Blessed with I fervantly hope, My youngest Daughter[8] has finished her College Edication and is now school misses at Armley Church School, our John Wm is at Castleford Glass Bottle Works and has 4 steam Engines to look after, our Mary Ann is looking after my house R. H. as I said before Brother & sisters and my children all join with me in Kindest love to you you all and [piece missing] your affectionate Bro John Sutcliffe excuses my Bad [pieces missing] May 28, 72


  • [1] Charles' brother William married Jane Taylor on 15 November 1829.

  • [2] Robert, Thomas and Elizabeth Ann (whom Jane Coldwell Sutcliffe calls "Miss Lilly") were the three children of Charles' sister Henrietta and Benjamin Parkin. The Parkins were also living in the Arena area at this time.

  • [3] John's oldest son was Robert Henry, b. abt 1843, whose mother was John's second wife, Miriam (Mason). The names of his wife and children are not known.

  • [4] Charles' sister Susey married Thomas Shaw on Christmas Day in 1828. Since he was dead, however, by 1867, this must refer rather to Thomas Shaw, Jr., Susey's youngest child.

  • [5] Will Hanson, John Stables abd Oliver Helliwell are all unknown. They are likely simply friends and acquaintances.

  • [6] This is quite the improvement from the twelve hours or more, without overtime, Charles, as a nine year, likely was forced to work a half century earlier. See Footnote 1 for Charles' Journal for more details.

  • [7] This is likely a reference to the Great Chicago Fire of 1871.

  • [8] Adah, sister to Robert Henry and John William, mentioned earlier. Also a child of John's second wife. Just over a year from this letter, during Charles' visit to England, their half-sister, Mary Ann, would marry Charles' friend Thomas Hodkinson and, along with her two children, return with them to Wisconsin.

  • 1880s

    EGC-COR-010 1885 Letter - Niece Maria to Charles in Wisconsin


    but[1] is a little better than she was a few months ago. Aunt Susie's Daughters Cousin Martha & Henrietta[2] has been very poorly for some time, but Martha is a little better. but Henrietta does not seem to get any better & they dont think she will any more in this World. Aunt Susie seems to be failing too. I dont know how Aunt Mary Bagot[3] is getting on. we have not seen nor heard any thing of her for a long time. I & one of my Sisters[4] called at Farrars[5] the other night. they seem to get on well & are all in good health & about Three Weeks ago I was at Cousin Ada's Uncle John's Daughter her Husband & her self & family[6] are all pretty Well I can not tell you much about Mr. Barrowclough[7], only that he is married. he has been married five or six years. he married a young Widow about five & Twenty years old. he still Works at the place were he worked when you was here & the last time I saw him he was as stout has ever. but it is a good while since I saw him. I don't know where he lives. Dear Uncle & Aunt, we had a splendid Harvest alst year but I believe & told you in my last letter & evry thing is very high but Work scarce & England seems in a poor state at present you will see in the papers Mother sent you how the English are engaged in War & one of the bravest Heros of the day I mean General Gordon[9], has been betrayed by trechery. While holding a dangerous Position in the Soudan for the last Twelve Months awaiting the arrival of the English soldiers but you will see how they Blame the Government for the delay in the paper & how General Gordon might have been saved if they had gone to his rescue sooner, but I think I shall be tireing you with any long letter, how is Cousin Eliza Ann[10] getting on & all any Cousins that are Married give all our love to them all when you see them, Mother & Sisters & my self and our kindest Love & best Wishes to you all, we read the account of the Murder of Conrad Bemele, it sems very sad to think of a son killing his father, there seems to be strange things happening now adays, but I must be drawing my letter to a close. has I must write a few lines to Cousin Charley & Maria[11]. so I will say good bye this time hoping this will find you all better in health & if we should never meet in this World may we all meet in Heaven, where we shall be welcomed by many Loved ones who have gone before & where there will be neither War nor tumult nor sickness nor sorrow but peace fore ever more, again good bye with Love believe me Dear Uncle & Aunt.

    Your affectionate Niece Maria Sutcliffe.


  • [1] Maria, b. abt 1858, was a daughter of Charles' deceased brother, Henry, and his wife Mary (Hunt).

  • [2] Two of eight children of Charles' sister, Susey Shaw.

  • [3] Charles' sister Mary married William Bagot in 1829 and had five children. William died in 1861.

  • [4] Maria was the fourth of five siblings, all girls. Her sisters were Henrietta, Ann, Mary Zenai and Emily, b. between abt. 1848 and abt. 1860.

  • [5] Maria's cousin, Betty Shaw, had married Eli Farrar, son of David and Hannah. See the "Letter from Susey Shaw to Charles (1866)" for more information on the Shaws.

  • [6] Adah Mason Sutcliffe, daughter of Charles' brother John, married Joseph Johnson in 1875. The names of her children are not currently known.

  • [7] Possibly the Joshua Barraclough who drew the Memento of Charles' Sutcliffe's Visit to England (see Charles' Journal). The relationship of Mr. Barrowclough to the Sutcliffes is unknown. At one of the censuses he appears to have been a boarder of one of Charles' siblings. It would appear Charles and Barrowclough got on well enough during Charles' visit that Barrowclough drew the memento banner and merited an enquiry from Charles a dozen years later.

  • [9] General Charles Gordon, former Governor General of the Sudan, was the celebrated British general who had put down the Taiping Rebellion in China. In 1884, during the Mahdi War, he was besieged in the city of Khartoum by Sudanese Mahdi rebels. Khartoum fell to the Mahdi on 25 January, 1885 after a ten-month siege, and Gordon and his soldiers were massacred. A relief column, reluctantly sent by the British government only after great public outcry, arrived too late. As a result, the Liberals lost favor and Conservatives won the next election. Based on mention of the incident, I have dated this letter to 1885.

  • [10] Charles' second child.

  • [11] Charles' eighth and tenth children.

  • EGC-COR-011 1885 Letter - Niece Maria in England to Uncle Charles in Wisconsin


    March 30th 1885

    Dear Uncle Aunt & Cousins, since I finished writing any letters to you. We have removed I can not tell you our address at present because they are new houses were we have gone to & they have not got any name for them yet. the houses are in Aunt Sarah Ann[1]'s old district they are in Armley. You will see that I have put the old address on my letters but we had not removed when I began to write them. I began to write to you the begining of this month (March) & it will soon be out now. I should have sent them before but we have been so busy. Will you tell Cousin Harriett Sutcliffe[2] we have removed & then she wont write untill I send her our new address & I will send it to you when we get to know it so don't write untill you hear from me again so that your letters wont get lost. So when you get our address you must write has soon has you can & let me know if you have received any letters & Photo. So again good bye Dear Uncle Aunt & Cousins with love to you all from your affectionate Niece & Cousin.

    Maria Sutcliffe[3]


  • [1] Charles' wife, Sarah Ann (Blakey).

  • [2] Daughter of Mary Ann (Sutcliffe) Hodkinson, who had returned with her mother and Charles to Wisconsin in 1873.

  • [3] Maria Sutcliffe was the daughter of Charles' deceased brother Robert Henry ("Henry").

  • 1890s

    EGC-COR-012 1890s Telegram


    P Nid Depot Dodgeville Wis 13
    Mrs H E Gefke
    506 East Wilson St.

    Baby dead Come this Evening if you Can answer quick

    Daniel Davies[1]


  • [1] Maria Sutcliffe, Grandma Culver's maternal aunt and youngest child of Charles, married Daniel Davies in 1891. Who the baby was is not currently known.

  • 1900s

    EGC-COR-026 John F. to Charley Culver


    This is a letter written by Grandpa's grandfather, John F. Culver, to Charly, Grandpa's father. Grandpa's mother, Emily, had passed away just a few months earlier; Charly would die a year after this letter. Charly was away working in South Dakota, and Grandpa and his brothers were staying with various aunts and uncles. Grandpa was just shy of his tenth birthday at this time.

    Lone Rock Oct 18/06

    Mr. Charly Culver

    Dear Charly,
    I will now write you a few lines to inform you that Elmer and Jack Ferris[1] has had a row and Elmer has left him and gone to Henry Crooks[2]. They say that the boy has no clothes and that Jack wont send his cloths to him. Crook says he dont want him there, he says he will keep him until you get home but he wont get get [?] him any clothes and is coming to see[?] Dell Richardson [3] about it

    August & Jane[4] want him to go there but he wont go there now you answer this as soon as you can and let me know whether you want me to bring him Home or not or what you intend to do about it. Elmer says Jack and Cora Ann was mean to him & Jack shut him up in the bed room and would not let him have any dinner now that is a hell of away to serve boy of his size I think that any[?] will serve a child like that is capable of doing any little mean trick that can be though off. I had a notion of going to get him & bring him home with me but did not know whether you would want me to or not so please write to me by return mail & let me know what to do about it I think so long as your time is so dear got that you had better pack up and come home so you can see for yourself how things is going on if you come Home I think Elmer would be more apt to come over here to stay than he would if I went after him. I dont know whether he would come with me or not The other two[5] are getting along all right but Elmer poor boy I hate to see him sl[apped?] around the country in such away we would all like to have him come here and go to school

    Write as soon as you get this or come yourself
    from your Father J F Culver


    Lone Rock, WIS
    17 OCT, 1906 7PM

    Mr. Charles Culver
    Vienna, SD

    Marion Beneke[?]


  • [1] Cora Ann Tyrer, sister to Elmer's mother, married John "Jack" Farris.

  • [2] The identity of Henry Crooks is currently unknown.

  • [3] The identity of Dell Richardson is currently unknown.

  • [4] Martha Jane ("Jane") Tyrer, sister to Elmer's mother, married August Bosthmeir.

  • [5] Presumably Elmer's brothers, Raymond and Adrian, ages 8 and 4 respectively at the time.

  • EGC-COR-027 1909 Guardianship Letter to John F. Culver


    Dodgeville, Wisconsin 3/20/09
    Mr. John F. Culver
    Lone Rock, Wis.

    Dear Sir --

    I write you relative to the two Culver boys Judge J[?] says it is not necessary to appoint a guardian for them as they have no property, see to it that they are in good hands and with good people and that is all there is to it.

    I am yours respectfully, EJ Perkins, Supt.


    EGC-COR-013 1916 Letter HE Gefke to the Stanersons


    Mr & Mrs G. M. Stanerson[1]


    Windsor, Wis
    Mar 26 1916

    My Dear Son and Daughter

    I have been wanting to write to you for a long time but it is hard for me to get started, I do not like to write my fingers are so stiff now that it is hard for me to write have been outside for the last two hours and it is cold and rainy. Wed night it started to blow and thunder but did not rain but snowed in the morning there wer snow drifts so that it was hard for us to get to the barn. I went to Oregon in the eve and found more snow there than what we had here at Windsor. I heard that they had about 2 feet of snow at Beloit Robert[2] and I went up north the next day to Elroy to see Grand Pa[3] for there is where Aunt Helen[] lives now. We were surprised to not find any snow there but I tell you that is a rough country would not live there if they gave me a farm, but Helen says she likes it there They have very good buildings where they are now they live about 7 miles from Elroy.

    I have been having quite a time here to get Paul[5] streigtened up Grand Pa agreed to let Uncle Paul have $1000 and I was going to let him have $1000 so when the time came to pay Baxter I paid him $2000 thinking that I could get it back from Grand Pa I was to get it from Uncle Robert but when I came for my money he told me that Grand Pa had changed his mind and would not let him have it, he had some trouble with Aunt Luella[6] and it made him mad so he said that he would not help any of his children any more so I was in for it but after I talked to him and explained things told him that he always said his word was good and that I was in no way to blaim for what others had done he finally said he would do as he had agreed to. It was quite a relief from my mind so now we have things streighteneed out pretty well.

    I was just on the verge of writing to you stating that the rent would be due the 20th but Ma[7] did not think it advisable for me to do so so taking her advise did not write that day to be fair with you I did not intend that you should pay me any rent but again I have taken Ma's advise and did not return the check to you for fear you might think we did not want your money so have turned the check over to Ma to get a new hat which she is badly in need of.

    Mr. Gray once told me there wer two poor payments one that payed in advance the other that never paid.

    Now on finding you to be one of those have decided not to keep that not and run any chances any longer so enclosed you will find it marked paid in full you may use it or rather the money to apply on the on the purchase price of a piano should you want one and I will pay the balance later on but if you can get along without the Piano would not buy one just now it is far better to have a little money to your [illeg.] than to be in debt there may be a time not far distant that you see a good chance and by having a little money yourselves. I would be writting to help you but think it best not to be in to big a hurry and go to far in debt there is where Uncle Paul made his big mistake he never would get out of debt again if some one did not help him am living in hopes that he will do well from now on

    Now I must tell you a little about my trip to Texas am not going to write all night so will have to tell it in as few words as possible have only writen one page and getting tired but Ma tells me to keep and do not like to write would sooner go outside and work any time Ma left here. Feb 14 arived in Chicago in the morning of Feb 15 left Chicago about 9 Oclock arived at St Louis the same eve about 6 left St Louis about 630 the same one had a special car from St Louis and wer joined th[?] there by about 10 more people going to the same place so that made our crew number 33 we arived at San Antonio the next evening stayed there at the Hotel over night left about 9 AM arived at Falfurias in the evening about 530 the end of our destination and also the end of the Railroad, stayed in Falfurias over night the next Morning 9 Autos lined up to take us out to see the orange groves and dairy heards They wer fine oranges on the trees and some of the trees in blossom took us back to the Hotel had a good dinner about 1 Oclock we all started out again to see more of the country and wer taken out to were the owner of all that country lived for he owns a stretch of land 35 miles one way and 45 miles the other some farms in the evening we wer taken to what they call the camp about 20 miles from any railroad the next morning the Autos again lined up this time it was for the purpose of selling us land we rode all day looking at land I was so tired of seeing land did not care to go again the next day was Sunday and a very fine day that is the weather was so warm that we wer all looking for the shady places around the buildings for there wer only to small trees around the place and we had our coats hung in them.

    You will find enclosed a picture we had taken just before dinner that day perhaps you will not recognize all of the Windsor party so will tell you who they were H. E. Gefke Ed Ophaug Ed Dorman Art Shimming[8] H. Baxter Louis Ziesch and Will Gafke[9] Paoli othere are others on the picture but can not remember there names perhaps you will be able to pick out all the Windsor bunch. They could not sell any of the Windsor bunch any land that day so we had to stay over Sunday and they took us out again Monday all day but we would not bite they would keep on saying to me if you buy we will buy but I did not buy told them that my wife had forbiden me to buy land in Texas and I would have to get her consent before I would buy perhaps you know that when Ma says dont you dare to buy that is the end of it We wer taken back to Falfurias Monday evening stayed there over night left for home at 530 the next morning we had but few places to wait to make connections we had bout 4 hours in San Antonio we hired our Auto and took in the town that way I tell you it is a fine place have been telling Ma should we ever leave the farm will go and live there in winter to get out of the cold here. I think the South is fine in winter but it may be to hot in summer but would like to try it one winter. It is getting so dark that it is hard for me to write am getting tired again but they keep saying keep on told Edna that I was going to write all I could send for 2 cents and now have such thin paper it will keep me writing all day tomorrow by the way they are telling me now wished that I had taken some heavier paper would have been done now Supper now they call must go will try and write some more later on

    am going to finish this letter if it takes me all night have just finished milking and feeding some lams have 3 they wer born today and do not seem very strong so I have to fuss with them quite a little do not want to loose any more than I can help Sheep and lams are very high this winter have never known lams to sell as high as they sold this month so would like to raise all I can perhaps I may get a chance to sell some of those fancy prices next fall.

    Well to finish my Texas story wish to say that we had a fine time good board and good experience especially the experience we had while eating in the diner coming home and it being our last meal on the diner we had most all our meals on the diner but the last one toped the climax the porter had removed our pie plates and came in with a bowl of something, I happened to be first served with the new dish which I did not dare to tackle but my friend Mr Dorman put Ed Ophaug and myself wise saying watch the performance at the other table where Mr Baxter gave it a good stirring tasted it said nothing Will Gafke tasted said nothing thinking that the porter would soon come and drop something into the bowl but Mr Ziesch did not wait for the porter to drop something into the bowl but picked up his big spoon saying at the same time hay what is this we have here Sugar water I guess and stirring it up good got after it with all his usual vigor that he has at his command when something good to eat is in stone the porter seeing how ravishly he was devouring that sugar water patted Mr Ziesch gently on the back and removed the bowl before he had finished his delicious dish of sugar water I believe the wind must have been blowing from the south ever after that for there has been nothing but sugar water here ever since they have sugar water at the club meeting and songs at the school houses about the porter asked what will you have to drink finger bowl water I think

    Monday Mar 27

    did not finish my letter last night as I said I would am at it again today Leonard[10] says that Uncle Sam[10] will have the best of me unless I write more and Ma made me write on both sides of the paper which I did not intend to do when I started.

    Today is somewhat of a fine day only a little colder than it has been it rained very near all day Sat Sunday it rained all day it is almost impossible to get [illeg.] but think the frost is very near all out and the roads will soon begin to get better it is hard for me to get started to go out and work again have been away from home more this winter than ever before in my life but it did not cost me very much money my trip to Texas only cost me $30 so that was not bad travling very near 3000 miles board and all expenses

    My next trip will be west do not know how soon that will be perhaps not this spring should Gasoline take a drop may take a trip sometime this summer but if the price stays where it now is think it will be cheaper to travel by rail.

    Have just got the boys all rigged out with a new suit so they can go to see there love one and not be ashamed of there clothes Leonard may get that prize if offered him if he gets a dutch [illeg.] by the way things look to me now they may make a hitch could keep on writing for another hour and then not say much of anything so will now call it finished you may find plenty of mistakes but can not help that letter writing is not my occupation and therefore you can not expect me to be perfect.

    Had I started out writing you a louder letter like the Irish man did to his deaf mother would have had this finished long before now this is the last sheet of paper in the house and rain glad of it and think you will be when you come to read this letter I first wrote on one side of the paper and seeing that I would be short started on the other but you no doubt will find your way through it some how now I will have to go and feed my little lams did you get those things Ma send you all right

    as ever your


  • [1] HE Gefke is Grandma Edna's father, Henry. Mrs. GM Stanerson is her sister, Ruth, who married Gayle Stanerson. They were later divorced.

  • [2] Brother to Henry; uncle to Grandma Edna.

  • [3] Likely Henry's father, Joachim Gafke, with whom Henry immigrated when Henry was two years old.

  • [4]

  • [5] Anoher brother to Henry.

  • [6]

  • [7] Henrietta (Sutcliffe) Gefke.

  • [8] Art Schimming was a classmate of Leonard's, and brother to Mabel, whom Leonard would marry.

  • [9]

  • [10] Leonard was Grandma Edna's brother.

  • 1930s

    EGC-COR-014 1930s Letter - Niece Emma to Aunt Etta


    Dear Aunt Etta[1] and family.

    Your Xmas card came and I was glad to get a line from you. Also one came from Aunt Maria[2]. I am going to write to her too.

    The years have flown so soon away. Things in my past seem like a dream even my own child hood. I expect because I have lived in so many places both Porto Rico and Hawaii are almost in opposite sides of the world & you are between them.

    Mother[3] was well when I heard at Xmas. Her addres is 207 King St. Georgetown S. Carol. She is with Marion. Marion has three children. Her husband is in a store with his father. His name is Albert Ford. George with family was visiting mother this fall. He is now in Porto Rico again. LeGrand is still in Porto Rico. He weighs 170 lb. Does that seem possible? His wife & family are visiting in Alabama Her old home. Olive lives in new Jersey. She has one boy. Her husband has a fine job.

    I have two children. Francis 14 in Jan. who is in second year of High School & Patsy Ann who is 7 and in 2nd year of school. Both are very hight. Francis is a dear lad. Very thoughtful of me. We like it so much in Hawaii. It is very beautiful with its lovely flowers, sunshine sea and mountains. Our home is on the sea. We have a stucco house with a colorful roof. On one side we see beautiful mountains. Ships come into the bay in front of us so it is always intersting. My husband is principal of a Trade School here. He was very unwell last year but is better now. I was terribly worried over him. I don't know how I could live without him. He is still my lover. I hope you keep well. I always remember you when I was a child, Aunt Etta. You were so pretty.

    Much love, your niece Emma


  • [1] Henrietta (Sutcliffe) Gefke, Grandma Edna's mother. The writer of this letter is Emma Sutcliffe, second child of Henrietta's brother, George.

  • [2] Maria (Sutcliffe) Davies, sister to Henrietta.

  • [3] Emma was the second child of George by his first wife, Emma (Gould). LeGrand was her full brother. Olive, George and Marion were half-siblings by George's second wife, Elizabeth (Abely). Since Emma's mother died in 1886, "Mother" here must refer to Emma's step-mother, Elizabeth.

  • EGC-COR-035 1931 LeGrand Sutcliffe to Etta Gefke


    Tullaffa, PR

    Dear Aunt Etta:

    I am going to write you a short letter before I go to bed. I just wrote to Aunt Maria. I got a letter to day from Emma in Hawaii saying that she was listening in the radio of Ft. Wayne Indiana and heard that Ray Burkart was listening in. Ray is Olive's husband. They are in Patusan New Jersey.

    George and family got back from the Southern States a short time ago. They wanted to stay there, but found things too bad. He is doing well in selling flower[illeg] here. They had a nice visit with Mother and Marian in Georgetown, So. Carolina. Mother has 12 grandchildren. I was surprised that you had only 4.

    My eldest girl is near 11. I have three children, Emma 2, George 3, and Olive 1 and Marian 3. We can't let the Sutcliffe blod die out.

    I am up in the mountains here on a big farm on a garden project. Have been here 4 months. Ship vegetables to New York and San Juan My vegetables got first prize in an exhibition last week. Am having fine strawberries now. I get to San Juan once a week and to see the house in Palo Sero.

    I have gained in weight since I have been here and gotten younger in appearance. I feel younger than ever. My children are healthy kids also. They are still in Memphis, Tennessee. I hope to have them back for the summer vacation. I miss them so terribly.

    Much love to everyone. Write us again. I think about you a lot.

    P.S. Mother says she has the candle sticks grandfather gave her and wouldn't part with them for anything. I have the old bible of grandfather's. I don't know hwere the new one is. I have so many old bibles of grandparents, great grandparents, great uncles. People at one time mad a great fuss over having bibles and likely never read them. There are so many old and beautiful Spanish carved candlesticks here.

    I wish I had the diary grandfather wrote while he was in England.

    I don't think any of us half appreciated grandfather and grandmother.

    Your loving nephew

    EGC-COR-015 1932 Postcard - Louie and Ruth Stanerson to Henrietta Gefke


    Mrs. H. E. Gefke[1]
    127 So. Hancock St.,

    Sacred Heart, Minn.
    Sept. 15, 1932

    Ruth and I got here Tuesday at 7:00 A.M. 461 miles. Wonderful day for driving. Al and wife making us stay over to Monday. We are driving to Ruthven, Iowa, Sunday to see Gay and Mary.

    Louie & Ruth[2].


  • [1] Henry Gefke, Grandma Edna's father.

  • [2] Ruth is Grandma Edna's sister. She is the same Ruth of the HE Gefke Letter to the Stanersons, now on her second (of three) husbands, this time Louis Hahn.

  • 1960s

    EGC-COR-016 1963 Letter 1 - Helen Shepherd to Elmer Culver


    #17 Devon Court
    Lethbridge, Alta
    January 8, 1963

    Dear Mr. Culver[1],

    My three little granddaughters here in Lethbridge are delighted that I am using their gift stationery for this note to you. They could hardly wait to see me writing on it!

    A special "thank you" for your kind note and good wishes at Christmas, and also for the typed information included. The two "The Culvers and their name are just the same as I have, so we've had the same source of information but apparently different lines or branches of the family. Did I mention that on a trip last summer I managed to visit Culver family graves at Pomfret, Vermont, finding stones for even my great, great grandparents, which was a real privilege. Our record shows

    Simon Wrotham Culver B 1766 (my great great G.f)
    Junia Culver B 1802 " great "
    Marshall Conant Culver B 1831 " grandfather

    So, it seems our Culver lines are rather far apart, though no doubt they merge "way back when". I am still sorry to have missed seeing you last summer, but may be your way again sometime. If you come through Lethbridge again be sure to look me up. And thank you again for sending the material on the family genealogy. I guess I really should return it as you may need it for someone else. Thanks again and all best wishes

    Sincerely, Mrs. Helen Shepherd

    I decided the one sheet on your own family just might help sometime, but am returning the two.


  • [1] I don't know anything about the identity of the writer of this letter and the next. As she indicates, there does not appear to be a connection between her Culvers and ours.

  • EGC-COR-017 1963 Letter 2 - Helen Shepherd to Elmer Culver


    #17 Devon Court
    Lethbridge, Alta
    January 8, 1963

    Dear Mr. Culver:

    I intended writing you many weeks ago to thank you for your letter but this seems to have been a busy spring for me and letters didn't get written. I notice on re-reading your letter that you usually attend a family re-union at Tower Hill sometime in July, and I hope this will reach you before time for you to go. If you contact anyone there who has any information about my grandfather's birthplace or any of his brother's family I would certainly be interested to hear from you about it. I will attach a sheet showing names & dates.

    I am planning a trip through the States to visit my son who has moved to near Boston, and my route takes me through Madison. I will call you and it will be probably early September before I can start out. But I'm beginning to get excited at the experience. Thank you again for writing me and I do hope you manage to get a photograph of that family tree you have made up - I'll be more than glad to buy a copy!

    Mrs. Helen E. Shepherd

    EGC-COR-018 1964 Letter - Bernard Culver to Elmer Culver


    Bernard Culver
    Dickens, Iowa

    Mr. Elmer Culver
    House 33304
    3910 Nakoma Road

    1123 Edgehill

    POSTMARK: Feb 7 AM 1964
    Dickens, Iowa

    Dickens, Iowa
    Feb 7, 1964

    Dear Elmer:

    I took Dad and Mabel Cederholm over to Yankton to see Abbie Culver and they had a real nice visit altho we couldn't stay long as I had to be back in Spencer by 6. They are both full cousins to Abbie and had not seen her for years. Guess Mabel had seen her a few years back but I'm sure that Dad had not seen her for 40 years at least. Mabel is a daughter of William and Susan Culver and Dad is the son of George and Mellissa Culver. George and William were brothers to John Culver. I have been doing a bit of research on the Culver family and Abbie said that you had the family tree of the Wisconsin Culvers and thought I might be able to buy one.

    We were out to Spring Green and Lone Tree, Wis., this fall but as usual, we had to make a hurry-up trip of it. The car had to be back on the week end and we didn't get to do some of the things we had planned on doing.

    I had a letter from a lady in Tipton, Iowa, asking about some of the Culvers in this part of the state. She said that some fellow was writing a book on them and wanted to know if I had any information on the clan. I wrote back about a week ago but haven't heard from her. Her grandmother was a Culver. Don't know what branch.

    Anyway, I would like to have one of the Culver trees if one is available. Let me know what it costs.

    Bernard M. Culver
    Dickens, Iowa

    Abbie Culver
    1717 College
    Yankton, So. Dak.

    Mr. and Mrs. Elmer Culver
    3910 Nacoma Road
    Madison, Wisconsin

    POSTMARK: Feb 3 PM 1965
    Yankton, S. DAK.

    EGC-COR-019 1965 Letter Jane Ingram to Elmer Culver


    August 14, 1965

    Dear Mr. Culver,

    I wrote to Mrs. Earl Culver of Spring Green about history of the Culver Family. She supplied me with some information that she got from the book "History of Iowa Co. Wis. 1881". My Grandfather, Harvey Culver, Parents, Mr. and Mrs. howard Culver, and myself attended the family reunion in 1954 or 1955. I understood them to say when they read some of the history that it came from some encyclopedia. It seems to me the article was about Alvah Culver and one of his children that a Indian squaw tried to steal at Old Helena. If you know anything about the encyclopedia would you please send me the name of it and also the date.

    I became interested in genealogy when my daughter joined Campfire Girls. By tracing her family back she was able to receive a honor bead. I am now joining a genealogical society to see how far my husband and I can trace both the Culver and Ingram name. I will write down the information I know and any you can add to names of any books, as we live fairly close to the Los Angles County Library. I have been told that they have a marvelous collection of books to help in this type of work.

    I am enclosing a sheet of paper with the information I know, so if you could help me go back any futher or any additional information I will be deeply grateful.

    I want to thank you very much:

    Jane Culver Ingram

    born died Married
    Great Great GrandfatherAlvah Culver 1811 Bainbridge New York __________ __________
    Catharine Foster ________ New York __________
    Great Grandfather George Watson Culver ________ __________ Aug. 3, 1874 Arreno, Wis.
    Melissa Powers Feb. 1, 1854 Mineral Point, Wis. Feb. 3, 1940 Dickens Iowa
    Grandfather Harvey Elester CulverFeb. 24, 1878 Lone Rock, Wis. Jan. 26, 1963 Dickens Iowa 1901 Dec. 11
    Grace James Sept. 19, 1880 Alta, Iowa May 11, 1954 Dickens Iowa
    Father Howard James Culver June 13, 1907 LIVING Garden Grove, Calif.May 8, 1927 Jackson, Minn.
    Faye Edmunds Oct. 19, 1908 Lake City, Iowa LIVING Garden Grove, Calif.
    Daughter Jane Culver Ingram May. 20, 1937 Spencer, Iowa LIVING Garden Grove, Calif.

    Jane Ingram
    12401 Haga Street
    Garden Grove

    Mr. Elmer Culver
    3910 Nakoma Road
    Madison, Wisconsin

    POSTMARK: Garden Grove, Calif. AUG 15 PM 1965

    EGC-COR-020 1967 Envelope to E Culver


    Mrs. Earl Culver
    Spring Green

    Mr. and Mrs. Elmer Culver
    3910 Nakoma Rd

    POSTMARK: Spring Green, Wis. Oct 1 6-PM 1962 or 1967[1]


  • [1] The postage (4 cents) favors the earlier date.

  • 1970s

    EGC-COR-021 1977 Juanita Pike to Elmer Culver


    Sept. 4, 1977

    Dear Edna and Elmer,

    It is about time I answer your letter. Thanks for the poem Aunt Nellie wrote. I must have about forty poems she wrote. Did you get away to northern Wis.? I hope so, it is so nice to get into a different environment sometimes.

    We have been up to Big Bear Mountains and down to the Zoo at San Diego since we have been home. Bev. and Dick are up to Big Bear again today. They are interested in some property up there.

    I have been trying to put the Culver history together and it is rought right now. I am finding some information does not jibe. One is your father Charles's burial place. I have it at Old Helena Cemetery, yet another item says he was buried next to his wife and she was buried in Wyoming Valley Cemetery, and if they were not buried side by side why not? Another discrepancy is in Great-grandparents, John and Mary Sliter Culver buried at Dover Cemetery. The tomb stones read Mary died Feb., 7, 1865 age 74years-2months, I have Mary died 1852 age 65, born 1787, and John June 7 1862 age 62 years, where I have John died 1862 at age 74, born 1788. I have a feeling the tombstone information is mixed between John and Mary, from facts I have it is more likely to be John born 1788, died at age 74 and Mary, born 1787, died age 65 in 1852. It seems strange though that the tombstones were wrong unless whoever gave the information was in error. Have you anything to enlarge on this?

    Information I would like on you two is as follows:

    1. Were you married in Elgin, Ill. on June 14, 1927 and if so how does Elgin, Ill. fit into your lives?
    2. What was your mother's first name Edna?
    3. Elmer, I understand on the death of your father you and Raymond went to live with your maternal grandparents, what was their names, where did they live, how old were you, how long did you stay with them before going to Aunt Nellie's and how long you lived with her and then how long with your maternal grandparents before you went out to South Dakota to Grandpa Culver's?
    4. When did you go into World War I and did you go overseas?

    The reason for all these questions is I like to have a personal touch along with facts. When Abbie used to speak of living in the hollow where was this, could this be the homestead Grandpa Culver built on near Lone Rock? It could have been the log house Grandpa built on the Jim Jones acreage he bought.

    5. What is Raymond's middle name, where and when did he marry Barbara. Maybe you could send me his address and I could get his information from him. I don' have when he was born either.

    To get away from past history, we had a call from our David in Denver last Sunday. He and Gloria arrived there a week ago last Saturday for his internship at the American Memorial Lutheran Church. The pastor there went on his vacation so David had it all by himself. His two services and sermon was received with much praise so guess he did fine. Gloria went out Mon. and got a job for a Dentists as a dental technician to start Tue. the 5th of this month. She was so dsiappointed not to get a teaching job but in Denver they are letting teachers go not hiring them. She had six summers experience as a technician by working for her father so this worked in fine. They have a nice large apartment, two bedrooms.

    We are having a very warm day here today. If you can ever get out this way we would love to have you visit us. We loved it in Ws. and can see how Mother and Abbie were always remembering beautiful Wisconsin.

    Will close now, hoping you two are keeping well, write soon.

    With Love
    Juanita & Maynard

    Another question - In Abbie's & Nellie's information they mention Dickens, Iowa often & Ruthven also. I can't find them on the maps or in any book of knowledge. Were they called that years ago & are no longer know under these names. Nellie mentioned visiting Mabel & Fred Cedarholm at Ruthven.

    ENVELOPE: M.W. Anderson
    4831 Briercrest
    Lakewood, Calif.

    Mr. & Mrs. Elmer Culver
    3910 Nakoma Rd.
    Wisconsin 53711

    EGC-COR-022 1978 Letter - Adrian to brother Elmer Culver


    June 4 - 78

    Dear Bro & Sister

    Well I am going to get your letter ans. that I got some time as I sure been busy & still got a few things to do yet.

    Virgie & and I went to Los Vegas, Nevada & got married the 9th of May & we decided to live in her home here in Cedaredge which is 105 No. 5th St. as I needed her help as well as she needed mine, then from Los Vegas we went to Prescott Ariz. & Visited with my children around there then left for Abuquerque NM. & Visited with Betty Lou & Family.

    So I have my trailer up for sale as I had my shop moved down here & got all my wood moved also what a job, as I had it all piled up in my lean to so had to move it also.

    A week from today Virgie & I are going to Washington as her Bros. are haveing a larg Family reunion out there as there will be 86 altogeather. Will take a couple of days driveing each way will stay or begon for two weeks & her grand daughter will take Care of our garden & lawn as it has to be irrtigated twice a week.

    I hope you both are well & happy as I am feeling better than I did.

    How is Ray & family tell them to write.

    When I get back I am going to do some fishing as Virgie loves to fish also.

    I must close. So write when you find time.

    With Love
    Adrian & Virgie

    ENVELOPE: A. Culver
    Box 514 Cedaredge, Colo.

    Mr. Mrs. Elmer Culver
    3910 Nakoma Rd,

    POSTMARK: Cedaredge, CO 81413
    Jun 5 PM 1978


    EGC-COR-023 1987 Letter - Henry J. Gefke to Elmer & Edna Culver


    Henry J. Gefke / 735 North Water Street
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin 53202 / (414) 276-2535

    November 3, 18\987

    Mr. and Mrs. Elmer Culver
    3910 Nakoma Road
    Madison, Wisconsin 53704

    Mrs. Mary Richter
    W6999 King Road
    Poynette, Wisconsin 53955

    Mr. David Culver
    14 N. Prospect Avenue
    Madison, Wisconsin 53704

    Mrs. Carol Beem
    6201 Highland Avenue
    Grants Pass, Oregon 97526

    Mrs. Ruth Olson
    935 San Marcos Circle
    Mountain View, California 94043

    Dear Aunt Edna and Uncle Elmer, David, Ruth, Mary and Carol

    With Aunt Edna and Uncle Elmer's copy of this letter, I am enclosing the two originals of the "Family Tree" prepared by Aunt Edna. Copies of each of the two Family Trees are being sent to David, Ruth, Mary and Carol.

    The Family Tree is most interesting, and the information and detail indicate an unbelievable amount of time spent in preparation. Thank you, Aunt Edna! I made a couple of extra copies for my sons, Brian and David.

    Clare, the children and I enjoyed the visit in August, and we all must make a determined effort to get together more often.

    An unfortunate even occurred not long after our Madison visit on August 24 when we had a fire at our new home. The finished basement was destryed and there was a lot of smoke damage throught the house; however, nobody was hurt and we are adequately covered by insurance. It is a real depressing experience, to say nothing about the annoyance and inconvenience during the period of restoration which we hope will be completed before Thanksgiving.

    I hope everyone is well, and my family and I wish you the best for the coming holidays and new Year.

    Henry J. Gefke

    P.S. This stationery lists my office address and telephone number. My home address and telephone number are:

    5521 N. Lydell Avenue
    Glendale, Wisconsin 53217
    (414) 964-1477

    EGC-COR-024 1988 Letter - Bev Lowe to Elmer Culver


    Saturday, 6:: /p.m.
    March 5, 1988

    Dear Elmer & Edna,

    Just a note of inquiry into the Culver History...

    Elmer, can you shed some light on George Watson Culver?

    Abbie, Mother (Jennie), Nellie, Lloyd and Bessie on occasion would refer to their Uncle Too, who was one of John F. Culver's brothers, or one of Alvah and Catherine (Foster) Culver's sons, and yet I don't see him mentioned on the Culver Family Tree you drew for Nellie, which was handed on to Abbie, Jennie, than me.

    According to the following information of Abbie's, mother's, and Nellie's, I have and the dates, Toot was George Watson Culver, who was born in 1848. They didn't have an obituary on him...

    "Uncle Toot, George Watson Culver was born at Old Helena, Wiscon. His wife was referred to by Le's[?] elsewhere?!. He married Melassa, and they moved t oDickens, Iowa. George died there in 1925 at the age of 77."

    "John F. Culver's second family... He married Margaret Ellen Lloyd, June 13, 1885, at Uncle Al's place in Clyde by Rev. Evans of Spring Green, Wis., and lived awhile with Uncle Al and Aunt Mary Jane (Lloyd); Dad's brother and Mother's sister. They moved to Dickens, Iow, & took Martha Ellen (Nellie) with them. They lived on Charles Warren's Farm, not far from both Uncle Bill and Uncle George (Toot). They lived there about 3 years and then moved back to Old Helena, Wisc., in a covered wagon."

    It is while they lived at the Charles Warren Farm, that Abbie Jane Culver was born. Aug 16, 1887.

    It appears that George (Toot) was born after Wm, who was born Jan. 2 or 22, 1843, in Old Helena, Wisc.; after Alvah (Al) Jr., born Febr. 14, 1845; than, George, who was born in 1848, also, in Old helena; than, the twins John F. and Joshua (who died in infancy), who were born July 8, 1850.

    Looks like our house could close escrow as early as April 1st, but we want to hold to our 60 day escrow, which should see us on our way to S.D. by April 26th thereabouts. A Dr. and his wife from Palm Springs bought our house as a vacation house, as they both love to ski.

    Bev & Dick

    [Handwritten note on the back appears to be in the post-stroke handwriting of Elmer Culver]

    George Watson Culver (Toot) and brother of John - Alvah & others. His wife was past post office mistress at Dickens, Iowa for many years.


    EGC-COR-025 Undated Letter 1


    am glad to hear that Raymond had a bumper crop & hope Barbra is feeling better as I know arthritis is painfull as I try & do lots of casting while fishing & dont last very long as my left arm plays out on me so then I just bait fish, I sure had a nice one on the other day but about half way in it split water & of course I lost it,

    but as we got more fish froze & Mamie Canned lots of it so We don't care if we dont get our limit of 10 Per.

    I will try & give you the names of my Grand children but a few I dont remember so wrote to Elmer to have him send them to me. so will try & get them on the back of this sheet, will start with my oldest children.

    Earl Charles Prescott Ariz.
        Steven son
        Lori Daughter
        David son
    Elmer Ray 1410W. Gurley Prescott Ariz.
    Betty Lou Walkup Albuquerque N.M.
        three missing as I never hear from her as she remarried
    Adrian Jr. Prescott Ariz.
    Carmencita Revoto Prescott Ariz.
    Sharron Rose Goswick Humbolt Ariz.

    over on back page

    Other Correspondence

    EGC-COR-028 Letter regarding Bessie Culver 01
    EGC-COR-028 Letter regarding Bessie Culver 02
    EGC-COR-029 Labor performed
    EGC-COR-030 Fishing License Charles Culver 01
    EGC-COR-030 Fishing License Charles Culver 02
    EGC-COR-031 Helen Shepherd to Elmer Culver 1963 March 22 01
    EGC-COR-031 Helen Shepherd to Elmer Culver 1963 March 22 02
    EGC-COR-032 1893 Charles W Sutcliffe Letter 01
    EGC-COR-032 1893 Charles W Sutcliffe Letter 02
    EGC-COR-033 Letter to Henrietta re land sale 01
    EGC-COR-033 Letter to Henrietta re land sale 02
    EGC-COR-034 Envelopes addressed to Henry and Etta Gefke 01
    EGC-COR-034 Envelopes addressed to Henry and Etta Gefke 02
    EGC-COR-036 1926 Tom to Etta Gefke
    EGC-COR-037 1886 Standard Phonography to H Gefke 01
    EGC-COR-037 1886 Standard Phonography to H Gefke 02
    EGC-COR-038 1899 RW Sutcliffe to Etta Gefke 01
    EGC-COR-038 1899 RW Sutcliffe to Etta Gefke 02
    EGC-COR-039 1899 RW Sutcliffe to Etta Gefke 01
    EGC-COR-039 1899 RW Sutcliffe to Etta Gefke 02
    EGC-COR-039 1899 RW Sutcliffe to Etta Gefke 03
    EGC-COR-039 1899 RW Sutcliffe to Etta Gefke 04
    EGC-COR-040 RW Sutcliffe to Etta Gefke 01
    EGC-COR-040 RW Sutcliffe to Etta Gefke 02
    EGC-COR-040 RW Sutcliffe to Etta Gefke 03
    EGC-COR-040 RW Sutcliffe to Etta Gefke 04
    EGC-COR-041 1901 RW Sutcliffe to Etta Gefke 01
    EGC-COR-041 1901 RW Sutcliffe to Etta Gefke 02
    EGC-COR-042 1940 LeGrand to Etta 01
    EGC-COR-042 1940 LeGrand to Etta 02
    EGC-COR-043 1930 LeGrand to Etta 01
    EGC-COR-043 1930 LeGrand to Etta 02
    EGC-COR-043 1930 LeGrand to Etta 03
    EGC-COR-043 1930 LeGrand to Etta 04
    EGC-COR-044 1943 LeGrand to Etta 01
    EGC-COR-044 1943 LeGrand to Etta 02
    EGC-COR-045 1941 Marion to Etta 01
    EGC-COR-045 1941 Marion to Etta 02
    EGC-COR-045 1941 Marion to Etta 03
    EGC-COR-045 1941 Marion to Etta 04
    EGC-COR-046 1941 LeGrand to Etta 01
    EGC-COR-046 1941 LeGrand to Etta 02
    EGC-COR-046 1941 LeGrand to Etta 03
    EGC-COR-047 1940 LeGrand to Etta Envelope
    EGC-COR-048 1903 Four postcards to Etta re George 01
    EGC-COR-048 1903 Four postcards to Etta re George 02
    EGC-COR-049 1941 LeGrand to Etta 01
    EGC-COR-049 1941 LeGrand to Etta 02
    EGC-COR-050 LeGrand to Unknown 01
    EGC-COR-050 LeGrand to Unknown 02
    EGC-COR-051 1967 Jane Ingram to Elmer Culver 01
    EGC-COR-051 1967 Jane Ingram to Elmer Culver 02
    EGC-COR-052 Dean Sutcliffe to Etta
    EGC-COR-053 1938 LeGrand to Etta 01
    EGC-COR-053 1938 LeGrand to Etta 02
    EGC-COR-054 1940 LeGrand to Etta 01
    EGC-COR-054 1940 LeGrand to Etta 02
    EGC-COR-054 1940 LeGrand to Etta 03
    EGC-COR-054 1940 LeGrand to Etta 04
    EGC-COR-055 1943 LeGrand to Etta 01
    EGC-COR-055 1943 LeGrand to Etta 02
    EGC-COR-056 Undated Letter to H Gefke 01
    EGC-COR-056 Undated Letter to H Gefke 02
    EGC-COR-056 Undated Letter to H Gefke 03
    EGC-COR-057 1903 Lizzie to Etta George Dead
    EGC-COR-058 1943 LeGrand to Etta Envelope 01
    EGC-COR-058 1943 LeGrand to Etta Envelope 02
    EGC-COR-059 1897 Letter to Henry Gefke 01
    EGC-COR-059 1897 Letter to Henry Gefke 02
    EGC-COR-060 1916 Henry and Etta to Maria Davies 01
    EGC-COR-060 1916 Henry and Etta to Maria Davies 02
    EGC-COR-061 C Richter to Edna and Elmer Culver 01
    EGC-COR-061 C Richter to Edna and Elmer Culver 02
    EGC-COR-062 1973 D Skuldt to ET Culver 01
    EGC-COR-062 1973 D Skuldt to ET Culver 02
    EGC-COR-062 1973 D Skuldt to ET Culver 03
    EGC-COR-063 1951 ET Culver to Edna 01
    EGC-COR-063 1951 ET Culver to Edna 02
    EGC-COR-064 1916 N Speece to ET Culver
    EGC-COR-065 Sen. Nelson to ET Culver 01
    EGC-COR-065 Sen. Nelson to ET Culver 02
    EGC-COR-066 1969 Otto Festge to ET Culver 01
    EGC-COR-066 1969 Otto Festge to ET Culver 02
    EGC-COR-070 Etta Turnell to Maria Davies Envelope
    EGC-COR-071 1897 To Etta Envelope 01
    EGC-COR-071 1897 To Etta Envelope 02
    EGC-COR-072 1926 Dean Sutcliffe to Etta 01
    EGC-COR-072 1926 Dean Sutcliffe to Etta 02
    EGC-COR-073 1908 Arthur Gafke to Henry and William 01
    EGC-COR-073 1908 Arthur Gafke to Henry and William 02